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To Tell The Tuth... PDF Print E-mail
Written by Beecher Trail   
Monday, 16 February 2009 22:31

I found the following information on SEVERAL sites promoting their Hydrogen Cells.

Before you read it, it is TOTALLY bogus, as you will see...

(just click the link and read it for yourself!)


WARNING! DO NOT BELIEVE THIS. ALWAYS CHECK THE LAWS YOURSELF BEFORE MAKING A DECISION TO USE SOMETHING AS SUPPORT FOR YOUR INVENTIONS!!!

THE TRUTH IS FREQUENTLY ALTERED BY THOSE WHO SEEK GREATER CONTROL OF EITHER US OR (more frequently) OUR MONEY!!!

Clean Fuel Tax Deductions

Following are excerpts from IRS Publication 535 viewable at http://www.irs.gov/publications/p535/ch12.html#d0e10094.

You are allowed a limited deduction for the cost of clean-fuel vehicle property and clean-fuel vehicle refueling property you place in service during the tax year.

Clean-burning fuels. The following are clean-burning fuels.

  1. Natural gas.
  2. Liquefied natural gas.
  3. Liquefied petroleum gas.
  4. Hydrogen.
  5. Electricity.
  6. Any other fuel that is at least 85% alcohol (any kind) or ether.

Deduction for Clean-Fuel Vehicle Property

The deduction for this property may be claimed regardless of whether the property is used in a trade or business

Clean-fuel vehicle property. Clean-fuel vehicle property is either of the following kinds of property.

Any property installed on a motor vehicle (including installation costs) to enable it to be propelled by a clean-burning fuel

  1. The property is an engine (or modification of an engine) that can use a clean-burning fuel, or
  2. The property is used to store or deliver that fuel to the engine or to exhaust gases from the combustion of that fuel.

For vehicles that may be propelled by both a clean-burning fuel and any other fuel, your deduction is generally the additional cost of permitting the use of the clean-burning fuel.

 


 


ANY TIME YOU FIND DOCUMENTS THAT AFFECT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE GOVERNMENT (especially when it comes to money) CHECK THEM OUT!

When you do go to the IRS site and pull up Pub 535, Chapeter 12, you'll find it's called "Business Expenses for use in filling out 2007 returns." Chapter 12 is nothing more than directions to turn for more help.

If you're looking for more information on tax credits, then I recommend The EnergyStar.gov website. There, you can find the whole truth located on their page titled: Federal Tax Credits for Energy Efficiency.

The Department of Energy site is providing a link to something called "DSIRE", the Database for State Incentives for Renewables & Efficiency. There's a real nice map that's clickable

When I pulled up my home state of Arizona, I found there were a whole bunch of resources within a few mles of my house!

For you guys who are making these units and hoping to make some money to feed your families, check out the ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AND SECURITY ACT OF 2007, Sec. 134. Loan guarantees for fuel-efficient automobile parts manufacturers.

That's enough for now.

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Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 January 2010 11:44 )
 
The First Hydrogen Garage in Phoenix PDF Print E-mail
Written by Beecher Trail   
Thursday, 08 January 2009 19:19

I am very pleased to announce the launch of The ClubHHO Hydrogen Garage!!!

Thanks to the work of many, many people across the nation, we are now able to distribute Water as a Fuel systems to the general public. Well, the general PRIVATE, anyway!

Coming in February of this year, Myself (GadgetMan) and Dave Gibson are opening The ClubHHO Hydrogen Garage in Gilbert, Arizona. We have assembled a complete and remarkable system that will be available to club members that is sure to guarantee a greater footprint of Water as a Fuel technology.

I owe my gratitude to Mr. Dave Gibson, Gabet123 of HHOInfo.Ning.com and The Special Research Group. Especially to Donald Johnson Jr.,  without whose help we would not have got this far, and would still be stumbling around in the dark. Your team of questioners are without a doubt invaluable to the HHO developer community.

I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but my team is! They represent the finest minds in HHO developers in the world.

You guys are the greatest.

~GadgetMan~

Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 January 2010 11:45 )
 
Local Chapters Forming PDF Print E-mail
Written by Beecher Trail   
Friday, 02 January 2009 11:23

Local Chapters of ClubHHO.com are now forming!

We have had such a powerful response to the concept of "ClubHHO" that we have decided to put a little more effort into forming individual groups.

Think of it: your own private "ClubHHouse".

If you like the idea, we already have the server. We already have the software. We already have the presence. What we need is you.

I propose an individual site for every state in the union. Following that (or during!) we build sites for every country in the world. Right now, that represents 36 Nations!

My! How we have grown!

Send an e-mail to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and let me know what you would do with "MyState.ClubHHO.com"!

 

Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 January 2010 12:31 )
 
Safety Alert! PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Beecher Trail   
Friday, 19 December 2008 05:53

 Remember Erin Brokovich?

Here's a piece I picked up courtesy of Gabet123 over at hhoinfo.ning.com, and you had BETTER PAY ATTENTION!

 

 

(Well, me and Zero and Gabet123 and a lot of folks who helped bring this video to you!)

Here's another for the doubting Thomases:

 

 

So, get your butt over to hhoinfo.ning.com and visit some of the experts there!

Tell Gabet123 I sent ya.

~GadgetMan~

Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 January 2010 17:05 )
 
Getting Serious With HHO Development PDF Print E-mail
Written by Beecher Trail   
Friday, 12 December 2008 07:01

Are you SERIOUS about developing Water as a Fuel?

I was visiting with a gentleman the other day who said something to me that I found personally offensive. He told me "Nobody takes this HHO stuff seriously."

How do you feel about his comment?

First of all, he's a man who is a superb engineer. That alone would normally cause me to dismiss ALL of his opinions, but he is a rare sort of engineer. He's an engineer who is very real and earthy. He has "Put sh*t in outer space, man." He now runs a sort of fabrication company that produces some amazing tools, and I'm not talking screwdrivers here!

Anyway, I reflected on our conversation and what it truly meant, and he was right! While we DO take it seriously (meaning our personal projects) we are NOT treating this as a serious opportunity to convince the world of the benefits of hydrolysis of water as a fuel source.

But we COULD!

Together, we are growing as a community. I'm calling to all of you right now to make a basic change in how you work. If you've been documenting your experiments, then you're one step ahead, because that is exactly what we need to be taken seriously. We need, no, the WORLD needs, to be given some very real data. Data we already possess.

I am putting out a call to ALL HHO DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW to be part of a SERIOUS development project. If you are serious about HHO production and want to contribute to the science of it, here's your chance.

We need data. Data that is absolutely CRITICAL to be taken serious by the scientific community.

You can start your own threads in the forum (just click on the title of the forum i.e. "My HHOuse" and a link for "New Thread" will appear.) to fulfill this need. I am starting some new threads now to fill in the blanks.

  • Plate arrays-Which are the best? If you have experimented with different arrays, use the SAME BATCH of electrolyte and the SAME power source with the DIFFERENT arrays and record the production.
  • Electrolyte selection- Using the SAME array (cleaned properly between tests or manufactured IDENTICALLY) and the SAME power supply, test in your different solutions. NaOH or KOH or whatever it is you prefer. Record your output for each test.
  • Power Supply-Using the SAME array (tubular, flat plate or spiral) and electrolyte from the SAME batch, apply your different power supplies (PWM/Non-PWM, High voltage, Low-Voltage, current modified) record the parameters and yoru production rate for each.
  • Housings- If you are using different types of housing, and believe they make a difference, record snapshots of each (if you can) and post them, along with the facts. How long does the solution last? How many liters of production are generated? How easy is it to stop the leaks? How easy to assemble? 

If you have any more subjects to add, tell us about it. Go the extra step and start a new thread for the discussion. We can all only benefit from the sharing of REAL data.

It's time to make a few changes to the way we experiment if the world is going to take us SERIOUSLY!

And I AM serious!

HHOw about you?

Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 January 2010 12:37 )
 
Rockin on a 99 Deville PDF Print E-mail
Written by Beecher Trail   
Tuesday, 02 December 2008 14:56

A 99 DeVille Elegance Get's HHO'd!

I've been working for a couple of weeks on getting a friend's Caddy hooked onto my cell. As he took off in it for San Diego half way through, it's okay it took so long, but I learned a number of things when it got back into my drive.

When the thing got to me, it was disconnected. I had it tuned to a max of 25 amps, but this thing, when I hooked it up, pegged my meter at over 50! I don't know if you're aware, but most cars are manufactured with a 50 amp window for add-ons. 

1) Do NOT use caulking to seal your unit. The results for me was CATASTROPHIC CONTAMINATION! Now, it's probably going to take a year of cleaning and running and cleaning and running to get that crap out of my beautiful acrylic unit.

2) It is FAR better to have a control module as an add-on device. I'm using the AEMPower.com F/IC-8. It's a BUNCH of wires to add to your system, but WELL WORTH THE HOURS YOU INVEST! You have INFINITE control over the fuel delivery.

3) Find one style of array that works for you and THEN refine it. It's much better to stabilize, make a small change then stabilize THAT. It's not a really wise thing to change horses in mid-stream!

That pretty well sums up the major points. If you want to see it, it'll be here in a day or two. As of Thursday, December 4th, it's going to an Angel Investor Conference in Sedona to be shown off.

I'm tellin' you guys, there is a HIGH level of interest in seeing these systems are made available to the public!

With the Caddy, I am going to GUARANTEE 25% savings on his fuel costs, and FULLY expect to give him DOUBLE!

~GadgetMan~

Last Updated ( Saturday, 16 January 2010 18:45 )
 
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